And provide a succinct list of talking points and responses to chat to people at work about?

Yeah, well, fuck you for being a reasonable person.

There doesn’t really seem to much being shown here. They’ve not secretly come and arrested him quietly questioned him and released him and from the photos it doesn’t look like he’s been told “don’t worry it’s a dog and pony show, we’re just going through”

How far that stretches, we’ll have to see, I doubt he’ll see a cell but let’s give them some time to see how things develop.

Kind of a half decent use for them if you think about it, they’re probably quite good on etiquette and come with a certain cachet regardless of what we may think.

It’s likely all they have sufficient evidence to charge him with in their jurisdiction.

It could be, alternatively if the company goes out of business tomorrow you lose.

The question you need to ask yourself is how it will do vs other options, I’m no investor by any means but I’d be wondering:

a) would an index fund beat it long term (historically you might see 7% annual gains on a fund that tracks NYSE over the same period)

b) why is it trading below its face value - everyone has the same information about this bond in theory, therefore bond traders are aware of the same thing, if it was a great deal it would be in demand and the price would rise. So someone more experienced than us has accounted for the return and the risk/reward for them says $80 is right.

c) does it beat inflation - $450 payoff seems nice now (assuming you save up all those $5s) 30 years ago it would’ve seemed even better, but $100 in 1997 has the spending power of $200 today - in 70 years time the $450 might have the equivalent spending power of $100 today. Which is to say your real terms return may only be $20 over 70 years.

I’ll disagree, personally I’d have bought a Mondeo over a VAG wagon in a heartbeat if they still made them. I got talking to a salesman at my local dealership and the sentiment is basically “no-one really understands what they’re doing, they’ve stopped making all the cars that sold well”

Who’s getting employed to do nothing? What are you basing this on?

Define need. Companies will happily cut staff they need to save costs. Staff that remain then get the workload dumped upon them. Now everyone is running around half-assing everything at peak stress to try and keep the ship afloat, doing jobs they’re not good at and don’t enjoy poorly because someone didn’t understand someone else’s contribution.

Coupon rate is paid on the principal - assuming the hundo is accurate then it’s $5/yr. If you think Motorola will be around in 14 years then you’d have your investment back. If you think they’ll be around in another 70 years you get $350 + $100 because when it matures they need to repay the bond.

I’m wondering if Gaben could buy a semiconductor foundry and start producing RAM.

I’m not really trying to argue the point on the level of achievement - that will always be subjective. More to address the point on why local heroes don’t get above OBE and to raise the absurdity of the dual use of peerages.

I think we should, to a degree, separate peerages from KBE/CBE/MBE/OBE/BM - they’re not political and there are (so far as I know) specific criteria that need to be met to achieve the various levels (for instance someone doing something locally will by definition never get anything higher than an OBE, because a CBE requires significant achievement at a regional or national level).

Peerages are a bit weird, senior politicians/lawyers/academics etc getting appointments makes sense because they’re the upper legislative house and to a degree we want some level of political nous in the parliamentary body. However they’re also given to the likes of Andrew Lloyd Webber presumably as a reward for his achievements, which may or may not be deserved, but also mean he can be shipped in if required to vote on legislation.

Separation of “honours like” and “legislative like” peerages would be a good idea.

Exactement!

Has he?

Tbh I don’t think anyone ever thought Mandleson was good, his nickname was The Prince of Darkness.

What are you trying to model? It’s far from unusable.

FreeCAD isn’t terrible, especially since v1, it’s rough round the edges at times, but definitely usable.

You remind me of Clarke’s third law, even in my own head this sounds a bit waffely but at the point one of them can fool all of us all the time how do we distinguish it from intelligence or something.

Okay, now airbus do freecad.